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Post by ianjonefan on Aug 15, 2009 19:55:45 GMT -6
To those who might be planniing another trip to Scotland during the Summer months , don't make the same mistake I did . My right leg got covered with midge bites from the knee to tjust before it rerached the foot . I was able to get mediciation for it , and its getting better. Get some Anti- itch mediciation such as Gold Bond , or another brand , but if you have a certain medical condition get a prescription from your doctor . just to be on the safe side . I can tell you from personal experience that it'll drive you ( CRAZY ) until you get medicine for it .
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Post by ianjonefan on Aug 16, 2009 9:59:10 GMT -6
I'm asking for help , and understanding from my fellow Clan Cameron members . As I don not have any peripheral vision in my right eye , and being near -sighted it's very easy for me to make mistakes in my reading emails . Especially with these new energy saver bulbs . So if I make any mistakes it's not intential . So if I do make a a mistake please let me know . I would very much appreciate in knowing so I can try as hard as I can not make the same mistake again. I'm also wearing trifocals which sometimes makes it hard for me to see .
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Post by ianjonefan on Aug 24, 2009 5:24:51 GMT -6
Looking for a Civil War Reenactment group based in Colorado the New York Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders Co. A If anyone has a address , or a email address for them please let me know either by post , or personal message .
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Post by ianjonefan on Aug 30, 2009 19:25:21 GMT -6
Does anyone know how old St. Ciaran's Church of Achnacarry is ?
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Post by ianjonefan on Aug 30, 2009 22:42:24 GMT -6
I might have missed it , but how old is Achnacarry Castle ?
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Post by SherbrookeJacobite on Aug 31, 2009 11:45:56 GMT -6
Hi Jon,
Achnacarry Castle was built between 1802 and 1837. Somewhere I have the date that St. Ciaran's was built, I will look it up, but I believe that it was constructed in th early part of the 1900's.
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Post by ianjonefan on Aug 31, 2009 14:34:40 GMT -6
Thanks John . Is there a echco here ?
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Post by SherbrookeJacobite on Aug 31, 2009 17:11:16 GMT -6
Looking for a Civil War Reenactment group based in Colorado the New York Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders Co. A If anyone has a address , or a email address for them please let me know either by post , or personal message . Hi Again Jon, There is a group in Oregon fitting that description. They have a website at: www.yanksinkilts.com/company-c-79th-highlanders-new-york-volunteers |
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Post by ianjonefan on Nov 16, 2009 6:36:05 GMT -6
Can anyone help me find a business that sells billfolds that have embossed Clan Crests for sale . I'm looking for one that has a Clan Cameron Crest . Also I'm looking for women purses with a embossed Clan Cameron Crest to give as a gift to my mother .
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Post by cameronincollege on Dec 27, 2009 19:47:43 GMT -6
Alright, I'm shipping off to Basic Training for the U.S. Army on February Sixteenth and would like some help in attempting to learn how to properly pronounce the family Battle Cry and Motto. On a related matter I would also like help in attempting to get the correct spelling of the family Battle Cry as I have been spelling it as "Chlanna nan con thigibh a so's gheibh sibh feoil." While attempting to find the correct spelling and pronunciation I came across a post on a forum that said it would be more "proper" to replace "a so" with: "an seo" of "anseo." As for the pronunciation I would be very thankful if I could talk a Gaelic speaking Cameron into recording the correct pronunciation of the Battle Cry and Motto then send it to me, if they're willing. I ask because I have a friend who also happens to be an artist and is willing to do some work on the back of a coat I often wear. She will be available to do the work in two weeks so I'm making a last ditch effort to gather all of the information I can. Don't ask for much do I? Lol. (The recommended proper spelling was found on www.sciforums.com/Chlanna-nan-con-thigibh-a-so-s-gheibh-sibh-feoil-t-69865.html tenth post down by "Seamus45" on the tenth paragraph, including the little one line posts.) |
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Post by SherbrookeJacobite on Dec 28, 2009 0:51:52 GMT -6
First let me start off by saying Thank You! In carrying on the proud military tradition of our Clan, you are also providing an unselfish, and essential service that makes the world a better place for all of us. God bless you, and keep you safe! You make us all proud.
Now to your questions. The Cameron "rallying cry" is "Chlanna nan con thigibh a so's gheibh sibh feoil. As you have been spelling it. That is the way I have most often seen it spelled, and although there are different spellings for many gaelic words, based mainly on regional differences, for the final word on this I would refer to "the Cameron Bible" - that being "The Camerons, A History of Clan Cameron" by John Stewart of Ardvorlich. In this book the rallying cry is spelled as above. (Somerled MacMillan, in his book "Bygone Lochaber" gives the rallying cry as Chlanna nan con, thigibh a seo agus gheibh sibh feoil) It really comes down to personal preference, any of the alternatives are probably correct but again, I would defer to our history book.
The Clan battle cry or war cry, is "Da Thaobh Lochiall 'S Da Thaobh Lochaidh! - Lochiall! Lochiall!" or "Two sides of Locheil, and two sides of Lochy! - Lochiel! Lochiel!
As for pronunciation, I hope someone else can help. Seamus45 in his post gave a good phonetic example. If you pracrtice saying it the way he wrote it out, you will be close enough for any gaelic speakers to recognize what it is you are saying.
Seamus45 was incorrect in saying it is what the Camerons yelled when they charged. It was a rallying cry to bring the Clan together for battle, and it was directed at ourselves. There is an historical event which may have given rise to this cry. (The cry yelled as we charged into battle would have been the war cry).
There was a dispute between Lochiel and the Earl of Atholl over some lands - the hill grazings of Beinn a'Bhreac and the Black Water meadows. The two of them agreed to meet on the disputed lands and settle the affair. Lochiel was on his way to the meeting with two attendants when he met his Clanswoman, Gormshuil, who has come down to us in history as the witch of Moy. Gormshuil advised Lochiel to return home, and take with him 3 score and 5 of his best warriors. Lochiel proceeded to the meeting place, keeping his Cameron men in hiding, only to be brought out if needed. The meeting did not go well, and the two sides soon found themselves in a stalemate. Atholl had a trump card - and when he felt they were getting nowhere, he gave a signal and a party of Athollmen rose from the heather. "Who are these, my Lord Earl?" said Lochiel. "These" replied the Ear, "are only a few of my Atholl wetheres come with me to graze the Black Water meadows and Beinn a'Bhreac, which belong to me."
Lochiel then gave a signal, and up sprang his 65 Camerons, who outnumbered the Athollmen. "and who may these be?" asked the Earl. "These, my Lord Earl, are a few of my Lochaber hounds, sharp toothed and hungry, eager to taste the flesh of your Atholl wethers. Give up your claim to these lands for I cannot hold my hounds in leash much longer."
Atholl, seeing he was outmanouvered, gave up his claim to the lands, and as a token of good faith, he kissed his sword and threw it into the Loch. The little Loch has ever since been called Lochan a' Chlaidheimh (Little Loch of the Sword), and the County boundary between Inverness and Perthshire runs through it to this day.
In 1826, some men were fishing in this lochan and pulled up an old rusty broadsword. Some prominant Camerons of the day, 12 in number, took the sword and returned it to the Loch.
Seamus45 was correct in his statements about the old Lochaber gaelic dialect being kept alive in Cape Breton. I do have a Cameron friend there who is a gaelic speaker. I will pmyou with his contact information - maybe he can help you out.
All the best,
John
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Post by ianjonefan on May 16, 2010 11:35:54 GMT -6
To make a call from the U.K. to the U.S. which is correct Do I dial 01 ,or 011 then the area code then phone number ? The reason that I'm asking is that I was trying to get in touch with a genealogical library in Scotland , and they needed my phone number , but I didn't put the correct U. S. international code on the form .
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Post by ianjonefan on Sept 23, 2010 5:42:57 GMT -6
Any Camerons out there with " MYSPACE " accounts ? I'm having trouble retrieving my password for "MYSPACE" How do I go about finding it ? I first went to www.myspace.com and that didn't work . Is there anything else that I can try ? |
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