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Post by SherbrookeJacobite on May 29, 2006 16:37:45 GMT -6
Need help figuring out best way to find my ancestors in Nova Scotia. I know that my Grandmother told me she was a Cameron, but she never told us anything more specific before she died. please let me know if any of you have any advice or links...thanks. Albe of Alaska Welcome Albe! I am a Cameron from Nova Scotia, currently living in Alberta. If you could give me some names and or approximate dates, I may be able to help. Do you know any place names? There are/were lots of Camerons in Nova Scotia. Protestant Camerons are most likely to be found in Pictou and Guysborough Counties, Catholic Camerons are prevalent in Antigonish and Inverness Counties, although both are found in every part of Nova Scotia. If you could give me a few facts I can likely point you in the right direction. You may find you still have cousins there!
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Post by rose on Jun 3, 2006 1:00:03 GMT -6
Questions from a newbie, please bear with me. I thought this looked like the right place to ask experts on Camerons.
I've been researching my family for a while now, and recently started tracking a Scottish branch. I discovered that although my ancestor was living in Scotland, he had been born in Northern Ireland. His Scottish marriage certificate showed me that his mother's maiden surname was Cameron. I had no idea we had Camerons in the family, and I was delighted, but I've not been able to find anything more on her, either in Scotland or Ireland so far.
What I would like to know is;
1. If you have the surname Cameron, is it therefore likely you are part of the Cameron clan? Or does the surname occur outside the clan? (are all Camerons related in some way?)
2. Since her son was born in Ireland, she probably lived in Ireland. Does this make her less likely to be a part of the clan (or is she Scots-Irish, from the Scottish Plantation of Ulster, and thus related?)
3. Does anyone know any good places to try and trace the Irish Camerons? Tracing Irish records seems to be much harder than most - so many have been lost. So far ancestry.co.uk and familysearch.org have not come up with anything (but I only have a partial subscription to ancestry.co.uk.)
Many thanks for reading, and for any help. Sorry for so many questions, but my knowledge of Scottish genealogy is very limited.
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Post by SherbrookeJacobite on Jun 6, 2006 11:58:25 GMT -6
Questions from a newbie, please bear with me. I thought this looked like the right place to ask experts on Camerons. I'm not an expert - but I'll try and help! Very glad to see that you're delighted to be part Cameron! If you have the surname, it is very likely that you are part of the Cameron clan. I have been made aware of a few Camerons who trace their ancestry back to other sources than our Clan - but they are very few. All Camerons aren't necessarily related (for more information on this - see the DNA study that our Clan is currently involved in). The Cameron Clan was made up of five founding branches or families (represented on the Clan crest by the five arrows). These were (according to one interpretation) the MacGillonies, MacSorleys, MacMartins, Cameron of Lochiel and Cameron of Erracht. As all of these families came to be known as Camerons - an alternative interpretation (although both could be correct) is that the five founding branches were; MacMartins or Camerons of Letterfinlay, Camerons of Glen Nevis (MacSorley), Camerons of Callart and Lundavra, Camerons of Erracht (which could have been the MacGillonie/Camerons of Strone - as a founding branch, as distinguished from the later Camerons of Erracht who were descended from the Lochiel family), Camerons of Clunes. What this means is that large groups within the Clan are probably related to each other (which is being born out by the DNA study), but not all Camerons are related. There was lots of movement between Scotland and Northern Ireland. It doesn't make her any less likely to be a member of the Clan. I am not aware of Camerons among the planters - but there could have been. I really can't offer any assistance here - I have very limited experience with Irish genealogy. If you know roughly when she was born - you could start searching parish records - but it may be like looking for a needle in a haystack, if you don't know where she was born. She may well have been born in Scotland, and moved to Ireland with her husband. You might have more luck searching for her husband - and then looking for her in the same area (as a place to start). The fact that your Irish born ancestor moved to Scotland may be a clue that his parents originally came from there. The area he lived in might be a good place to start looking. There is no such thing as too many questions! Good luck with your search, and please stick around the message board - you never know who may show up that might be able to help. Slainte, John
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Post by ChrisDoak on Jun 10, 2006 5:09:35 GMT -6
There is also the possible scenario that the Cameron mother may have been the daughter (or wife) of a soldier serving in Ireland.Depending on when the mother or son was born (any idea?),we know that the Lochaber Fencible Regiment,and other Highland Regiments,was shipped to Ireland at the end of the 18th Century to quell the Uprising there.
The Lochaber Fencible Regiment were garrisoned near Enniskillen,and there were approx.125 Cameron men in the Regiment,many of whom had their wifes with them.Hence,though my Great Great Grandfather Alexander Cameron was born in Fort William,Scotland,in 1803,his elder brother Donald was born in Ireland in 1801,where their father Angus was serving.
Good luck.
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Post by rose on Jun 16, 2006 22:27:48 GMT -6
Many, many thanks for all the help, Sherbrooke Jacobite and ChrisDoak Sorry for the delay in replying - been away.
I'm very pleased. And amused. We named our son Cameron. Had no idea there was an actual blood link. Genetic memory? ;D
Thank you for the information on the family structure, and the movement re Scotland and Northern Ireland.
I've practically nothing, alas. The only information I have on her comes from her son's marriage certificate, which listed her married and maiden names. I know the approximate year her son was born - 1836 - so I guess she was born between about 1786 and 1823, making her 13 - 50 at the time of her son's birth.
ChrisDoak thank you for the Enniskillen soldier suggestion. That fits in very well timewise, and is entirely possible. Her husband was a farmer, but her father could have been one of the soldiers you mention. I've no idea if she was born in Ireland herself - she gave birth to her son in 'Antrim' (don't know if the record means the town or the county), but she could easily have moved from County Fermanagh.
Did the regiment stay out there long do you know?
Thanks good idea. The husband is proving even more difficult - his surname is Brown. I suppose that's easier than Smith. Quite likely the son moved back to the area though, good thought, especially if he needed family assistance (I don't know when he left Ireland, but the potato famine struck when he was a child, so that's a distinct possibility.) Whether he came alone I don't know. I need a good site that does emigration into Scotland from Ireland. (Lots for Ireland - USA, but my lot went east.)
Thank you! I will. And thanks for the welcome.
Best wishes.
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Post by ChrisDoak on Jun 19, 2006 10:55:41 GMT -6
Hi Rose,
The Lochaber Fencible Regiment was garrisoned in Ireland from approx.late 1799 till mid 1802.I have also checked which other Highland Regiments were in the north of Ireland around the same period,so here is a bit on those which are most relevant to the Camerons:
-79th Regiment (the Cameron Highlanders) were in Belfast in 1794,Portpatrick the same year,and Enniskillen in 1804 - 05.Maybe a couple of hundred of the soldiers carried the surname Cameron.
-92nd Regiment (the Gordon Highlanders) were in Athlone in 1798 - 99,Ireland generally for the period of 1804 - 07,and in Ballyshannon in 1808,and Athlone in 1810 -11.Again,there were approx. 50 to 100 soldiers with the surname Cameron in the Regiment.
-72nd Regiment (the Duke of Albany's) had a few Camerons within their ranks,and were in Newry in 1800 -05.
Don't know if this extra information will help you narrow things down.I am thinking as well that Mr Brown's wife may have been the result of a liaison between a Scottish soldier and a local girl,and Miss Cameron may therefore have been illegitimate.
Incidentally,being in Scotland,I might be able to help you more with the family when they arrived here - maybe the parents came with the son?Whereabout in Scotland did the son get married?What was his first name?And his mother and father's?
Cheers,Chris.
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Post by rose on Jun 22, 2006 19:41:57 GMT -6
I too am thinking that Miss Cameron might be the daughter of an Irish girl and a Scottish soldier, either legitimate or illegitimate. Pretty much anything's possible! She could also have been the daughter of a settler, or just been in Ireland briefly.....I have so little on her, alas.
Thanks so much for the offer of help, I'm very grateful. I'll e-mail you the details, if that's OK with you? (Your address is on the site.)
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Post by ChrisDoak on Jun 26, 2006 10:33:51 GMT -6
Hi Rose,
That will be okay.Looking forward to receiving your E-mail.
Cheers,Chris.
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Post by anne on Sept 4, 2006 14:38:48 GMT -6
Greetings from South Carolina. My name is Robert E. Taylor Sr. My line of Taylors were Scots-Irish protestants who arrived in America (Charleston, SC) in 1767 aboard the ship Earl of Denegl. I will provide further info later, but at this point I would like to learn more about the relationship of the Taylor family to the Clan Cameron. Thanks Hi, I have a Taylor ancestor from Fife Scotland, and my mom said he was a member of Clan Cameron. Mom had his town of birth as Killicothie, but I cannot find that on any maps.He served under Nelson at Trafalgar and then emigrated to USA, hence I am an Amercian. Trying to make the Cameron connection, I saw a web site today that said the Taylor sept of the Cameron Clan left and went to Cowall. Is that anywhere near Fife? Is there a history of Taylors in Cowall I could read onlne? Naturally, I would love to track down "my" clan place. Thanks for your help, Anne
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Post by 2006 on Sept 29, 2006 22:41:18 GMT -6
Hello: I am interested in the same family, I beieve. "My' Donald Cameron was son opf John of Fassiefern and in the Siege of Louisbourg 1758 and the Battle of the Plains of Abraham with the Fraser Highlanders. He was discharged in 1763 and presumably went back to Scotland ,but I have read where he spent some time in England. He made overtures to rent land f through his brother Ewen, but changed his mind. I have not bee able to locate him in Scotland after that except for occasional mention of marriages. He is listed as returning to what is now Nova Scotia (Pictou)to claim his land grant. He is mentioned as having served in the frth Egiment of Fraser highlanders and also Son of John of Fassifern.
There is also a copy of a letter he wrote after the battle at Quebec to his brother Ewen. He is listed as drowning in NS in 1796 in NS legal paper but in the military documentation , death is listed as 1817. Currently I am trtiing to find a link for a Charles Cameron b 1783 in Inverness-shire and somehow was on this side of the Atlantic and in Quebec when he enlisted as a boy of 7/8 in the 26thof Foot, Cameronian Regiment, as a Drummer Boy. I have the history which follows that period but I need to link him to family. There was mention in daughter of Charles' obituary where her ancestors fought on the Plains of Abraham. I realize that does not necessarity mean her G/F , but there were a number of relatives about whom Donald speaks in the above mentioned letter.
I am a new member and when I saw these letters which seem to have links, I decided to come out of the woodwork, so to speak. LET US UNITE and get our data out there so we can try to connect some of this material appearing on the DNA site. We have nmuch to gain in getting to know where we have migrated, descendants etc. Thank you for any information that can help to clarify some of this information. The DNA data to which I connect indirectly is Participant # 290230in Canada.
Delphine Large (Cameron) Victoria, B.C., Canada
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Post by Robert S Cameron on Dec 20, 2006 22:47:13 GMT -6
Belately replying to Paul Vernet - I have your family recorded in my Australian Cameron Genealogies as part of the Camerons of Fassiefern, your Donald being the second living son of John Cameron of Fassiefern. This has come to me from Cameron descendants in Australia - there is no other documentary proof that it is true, but it would seem to fit and at the moment I have no reason not to accept it. See www.clan-cameron.org.au or contact me on rcam1111@bigpond.net.au . Bob Cameron
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Post by Robert S Cameron on Dec 20, 2006 22:48:51 GMT -6
Belately replying to Paul Vernet - I have your family recorded in my Australian Cameron Genealogies as part of the Camerons of Fassiefern, your Donald being the second living son of John Cameron of Fassiefern. This has come to me from Cameron descendants in Australia - there is no other documentary proof that it is true, but it would seem to fit and at the moment I have no reason not to accept it. See www.clan-cameron.org.au or contact me on rcam1111@bigpond.net.au . Bob Cameron
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Post by ianjonefan on Feb 13, 2007 11:55:39 GMT -6
For those who missed it I sent a notice that I have some information on Col. John Cameron of Fassiefern who was a Col. in the Gordon Highlanders during the :BATTLE OF WATERLOO: that I'll be happy to share with other Camerons and Camerons that have the Fassiefern Connection. ianjonefan.
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Post by 2006 on May 10, 2007 21:28:23 GMT -6
Hello: I am interested in the Fassieferns. The info I have on that John is that he was the son of Ewen (later Sir Ewen CAMERON) as a result of his son being killed in battle. Single. His father Ewen was ther brother of Donald of Fassiefern mentioned earlier. dlarge@shaw.ca
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Post by 2006 on May 10, 2007 21:41:36 GMT -6
I have corresponded with Dr. Bob and Paul Vernet re the Donald of Fassiefern . We seem to be speaking about the same Donald, but with different references. The one I have researched was b 1742 Inverness-shire Scotland, sailed for Louisbourg 1756/7, wintered in the Colony and was at siege Louisbourg and later in 1759 Battle Plains of Abraham. He is listed in the Fraser Highlanders as a Lieutenant . Discharged in 1763. His Land grant came in 1785 and it was at Pictou. he was on the Hector listed as serving on the Plains of A, and the son of John of Fassiefern. He is listed as drowning in 1796 leaving a wife,Mary and a son John. Does anyone else have other or similar information? dlarge@shaw.ca
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Post by louisgabriel on Aug 2, 2007 7:25:27 GMT -6
Hello every body. My name is Louis-Gabriel Toupin from Quebec, Canada. My mother's name is Cameron. I'm looking for my ancesters. My parent have already did the genealogy for my Quebec's family but I would like to go further. I know that my ancester was Thomas Cameron who came here in 1772, probably to Charles Town. I know is parents was John Cameron and Mary-Anne Frazer from Inverness. Maybe somebody know a little bit more about my ancester. Thank you very much.
Louis-Gabriel the French Guy
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Post by sentfromaboveam on Oct 23, 2007 2:12:12 GMT -6
Need Help Please. I recently found out that my father that raised me wasn't my biological father. I have DNA test to prove that the man that found me is really my father. His name was James Martin from North Carolina. I know that he is kin to the Cameron's as he passed on letters to me that was from my ancestors. Some is dated a long time ago and are from Scotland. I am trying to find any kin that I may have as I was an only child, or at least raised that way by my mother and step-father. I can, from the letters and such that my father left me, trace my family back to Lochiel and Letterfinlay area of Scotland. I am not sure what I need to do to try to find any relatives here in the US as well as any still in Scotland. I do have my family bible from my father but it doesn't have all the siblings of my ancestors listed. I would appreciate anything anyone on here can give me to help me in my search as I would love to find out more information on my family.
Thank you, Angelique Martina Wynnfield
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Post by billcam on Jan 27, 2008 20:24:02 GMT -6
Angelique,
If you list some names, dates and places maybe someone will be able to help you make a match.
Bill
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Post by ianjonefan on May 11, 2008 17:43:02 GMT -6
Has anyone come across a Hugh Cameron an ancestor of mine is supposed to have been in line to the Chieftainship of the Campbells of Breadlebane , or some other connection to them. This information was from a booklet written by my great-great- great aunt , and that's all the information I have on him. If anyone has any information on him , or where I might be able to find it please let me know.
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Post by echols19861 on Oct 12, 2008 17:00:52 GMT -6
HI I AM ANGELIA ECHOLS (CAMERON). I AM LOOKING FOR MY BIRTH FATHER. HE WAS MARRIED TO MY MOTHER JOANN HUDDLESTON IN GREENVILLE MISSISSIPPI ON MAY 10TH 1964. MY FATHERS NAME IS JERRY LAMAR CAMERON. ANY INFORMATION ON HIM OR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CAMERON FAMILY. PLEASE! AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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